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Factory
Markings & Cylinder Naval Scenes
# Barrel Markings of Centaure Models & Variations
# Centaur - Corporate Logo
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Country of Origin #
Naval
Scenes on the Cylinder # Centaure
Proprietary Naval Scene
# Colt-Type Naval Scene
# Thoughts about Availability
# Mythbuster
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No barrel marking:
selected models 1967, 1971 through 1973
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RNMA
5th variation #6759 |
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Early RNMA 5th
variation (above left #6759)
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Marshal Models
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Factory engraved Models
(above right #11851)
“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”: 1959 through 1973
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RNMA 1st variation, 2nd sub-variation
#14260 |
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RNMA 1st
variation, 1st & 2nd sub-variation (above #14260)
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RNMA 2nd
variation
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RNMA 3rd variation, 1st sub-variation
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RNMA 6th variation, 2nd sub-variation
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Civilian Model
1st & 2nd variation
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Cavalry Model
1st & 2nd variation
“1960 NEW
MODEL ARMY” CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK: 1965 through
1973
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RNMA 1st variation, 3rd sub-variation #7266 |
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RNMA 1st
variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation
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RNMA 2nd
variation
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RNMA 3rd
variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation (# > 2000)
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RNMA 7th
variation
“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY” CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK CHICAGO U.S.A.: 1963 (USA and New Zealand)
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RNMA
2nd variation #2024 |
· RNMA 2nd
variation (above #2024)
· Civilian
Model 2nd variation
· Cavalry
Model 1st variation
CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”: 1963 through 1973
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RNMA 1st variation, 2nd sub-variation #11567 |
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RNMA 1st
variation, 2nd (above #11567) & 3rd sub-variation
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RNMA 2nd
variation
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RNMA 3rd
variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation (# > 2000)
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RNMA 4th
variation
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RNMA 6th
variation, 1st & 2nd sub-variation
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Cavalry Model 3rd
& 4th variation
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Early RNMAs
through ca. serial number 950 do not have the Centaure
logo (1959 through 1961 production, see #128 left) embossed into the frame
nor do the Civilian Models from #C1 to C490 (1960/61), nor factory engraved
models!
Later production pistols without the corporate logo
are very rare. They would most likely represent an error at the assembly line
but not a pistol specially ordered without logo. |
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From 1961 to the end of production the Centaure logo was placed on the forward left side of the
frame. Through 1964 (#3281) the logo
is a rampant
centaur with the front legs raised and the rifle pointing upwards, see left
#1269.
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This was changed to a walking centaur from around #3408 with the
rifle
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Country of Origin
Pistols have MADE IN BELGIUM
embossed into the butt of the back-strap (#128 left below). Few pistols are known with this mark on the left side
of the barrel (as well, #2538 right below),
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RNMA
#128 |
RNMA
#2538 |
even fewer with no such mark at all (#7638 left below). Most shoulder stocks
of the Cavalry Model are stamped on the left side of the brass. See picture of
F845 below right.
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RNMA #7638 |
Shoulder stock
#F845 |
Naval
Scenes on the Cylinder
Centaures with 2 types of naval engagement scene roll engraved into the cylinder
were marketed.
Centaure Proprietary Naval Scene
These cylinders
were roll-engraved at FAUL’s in Belgium. The naval
scene is similar to the Colt/Ormsby-type but shows
less background detail. 2 variants of this scene are known:
# Type 1: The legend ENGAGED
16 MAY 1843 is engraved parallel to the front end
of the cylinder on the first 490 of the Civilian Model (see #C418 below left), i.
e. 1st variation but was omitted on the later ones.
# Type
2: Found on 2nd
variation Civilians, 2nd variation RNMAs and 2nd variation Cavalry Models (confirmation pending)
do not have this legend. Likewise, it is not found on the extra cylinders with
this naval scene.
Between the naval
scene is the marking NEW MODEL 44 (#2684 below right)
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Civilian 1st variation #C418 |
RNMA
2nd variation #2684 |
Centaure proprietary naval
engagement scene without legend, details below (extra cylinder #969):
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Colt or Ormsby
Type Naval Scene
Contrary to the before
mentioned type of cylinder scene these cylinders were roll-engraved in the USA!
Because US shooters did not like the Centaure
proprietary naval engagement scene. Therefore, Centennial Arms
Corporation, Chicago (CACC) had noted US gunmaker
Thomas Haas produce a roll cylinder die with the Ormsby
naval scene as used on Colt 1851 & 1861 Navies and the 1860 Armies. Revolvers
were ordered by CACC from FAUL’s with their cylinders
blank so the Colt/Ormsby scene could be added in the USA.
These pistols then became
what we call today RNMAs 3rd
variations. Their cylinders regularly bear the legend ENGAGED 16 MAY
1843 parallel to the rim of the cylinder. 2 basic types of such cylinder scenes are currently
known:
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Type 1: Between the naval scene of the 1st
sub-variation the marking embossed COLTS PATENT No plus serial
number is embossed. It is assumed that this is the regular
marking of the first pistols with this cylinder scene, assumed in the 1400
serial number range (#1423 left below). These are the extremely rare RNMA 3rd
variation, 1st sub-variation.
#Type
2: On 3rd variation RNMAs
with this cylinder scene but higher S/Ns, i. e. 2nd
and 3rd sub-variation the marking was changed to CENTENNIAL and the serial number was moved to the breech end of the cylinder
(right below #2999). Centaures with this type of
cylinder engraving are called 2nd sub-variation (with cut in butt
for shoulder stock) and/or 3rd sub-variation (without cut in butt
for shoulder stock). These variations are very common in the USA. A few late
production pistols with this cylinder scene are known without the CENTENNIAL mark.
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RNMA 3rd variation, 1st sub-variation #1423 |
RNMA 3rd variation, 2nd sub-variation #2999 |
Colt/Ormsby
type naval engagement scene details below (#4612):
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MYTHBUSTER
Different
models and variations in America and Europe?
MYTH CONFIRMED!
#1 “American” models and variations
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RNMAs
1st variation: 1st sub-variation
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RNMAs
2nd variation
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RNMAs
3rd variation: all sub-variations
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Civilian Models: all variations
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Cavalry Models: 1st, 2nd
& 4th variation
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Pocket Army: all variations
#2 “European” models and variations
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RNMAs
4th variation
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RNMAs
5th variation: all sub-subvariations
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RNMAs
6th variation: all sub-variations
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RNMAs
7th variation
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Marshal Models: all variations
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Factory engraved pistols in de Luxe,
Super de Luxe, Presentation style
#3 “Universal” models and variations
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RNMAs
1st variation: 2nd & 3rd sub-variation
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Cavalry Models: 3rd variation
WDN/February 3, 2010
© 2007 Wolf D. Niederastroth