Factory Markings & Cylinder Naval Scenes
# Barrel Markings of Centaure Models & Variations
# Centaur - Corporate Logo

# Country of Origin

# Naval Scenes on the Cylinder

# Centaure Proprietary Naval Scene
# Colt-Type Naval Scene
# Thoughts about Availability
# Mythbuster
 
Barrel Markings of Centaure Models & Variations
 

No barrel marking: selected models 1967, 1971 through 1973

RNMA 5th variation #6759

De Luxe factory engraved RNMA #11851

·      Early RNMA 5th variation (above left #6759)

·      Marshal Models

·      Factory engraved Models (above right #11851)

 

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”: 1959 through 1973

RNMA 1st variation, 2nd sub-variation #14260

·       RNMA 1st variation, 1st & 2nd sub-variation (above #14260)

·       RNMA 2nd variation

·       RNMA 3rd variation, 1st sub-variation

·       RNMA 6th variation, 2nd sub-variation

·       Civilian Model 1st & 2nd variation

·       Cavalry Model 1st & 2nd variation

 

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”    CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK: 1965 through 1973

RNMA 1st variation, 3rd sub-variation #7266

·       RNMA 1st variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation

·       RNMA 2nd variation

·       RNMA 3rd variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation (# > 2000)

·       RNMA 7th variation

 

“1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”    CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK CHICAGO U.S.A.: 1963 (USA and New Zealand)

RNMA 2nd variation #2024

·      RNMA 2nd variation (above #2024)

·      Civilian Model 2nd variation

·      Cavalry Model 1st variation

 

CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK   “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY”: 1963 through 1973

RNMA 1st variation, 2nd sub-variation #11567

·      RNMA 1st variation, 2nd (above #11567) & 3rd sub-variation

·      RNMA 2nd variation

·      RNMA 3rd variation, 2nd & 3rd sub-variation (# > 2000)

·      RNMA 4th variation

·      RNMA 6th variation, 1st & 2nd sub-variation

·      Cavalry Model 3rd & 4th variation

 

Centaure - Corporate Logo

RNMA #128

Early RNMAs through ca. serial number 950 do not have the Centaure logo (1959 through 1961 production, see #128 left) embossed into the frame nor do the Civilian Models from #C1 to C490 (1960/61), nor factory engraved models!

Later production pistols without the corporate logo are very rare. They would most likely represent an error at the assembly line but not a pistol specially ordered without logo.

 

RNMA #1269

From 1961 to the end of production the Centaure logo was placed on the forward left side of the frame.

Through 1964 (#3281) the logo is a rampant centaur with the front legs raised and the rifle pointing upwards, see left #1269.

RNMA #4601

This was changed to a walking centaur from around #3408 with the rifle
pointing downwards, see left #4601.

Country of Origin

Pistols have MADE IN BELGIUM embossed into the butt of the back-strap (#128 left below). Few pistols are known with this mark on the left side of the barrel (as well, #2538 right below),

RNMA #128

RNMA #2538

even fewer with no such mark at all (#7638 left below). Most shoulder stocks of the Cavalry Model are stamped on the left side of the brass. See picture of F845 below right.

RNMA #7638

Shoulder stock #F845

Naval Scenes on the Cylinder

Centaures with 2 types of naval engagement scene roll engraved into the cylinder were marketed.

Centaure Proprietary Naval Scene

These cylinders were roll-engraved at FAUL’s in Belgium. The naval scene is similar to the Colt/Ormsby-type but shows less background detail. 2 variants of this scene are known:

# Type 1: The legend ENGAGED 16 MAY 1843 is engraved parallel to the front end of the cylinder on the first 490 of the Civilian Model (see #C418 below left), i. e. 1st variation but was omitted on the later ones.

# Type 2: Found on 2nd variation Civilians, 2nd variation RNMAs and 2nd variation Cavalry Models (confirmation pending) do not have this legend. Likewise, it is not found on the extra cylinders with this naval scene.

Between the naval scene is the marking NEW MODEL 44 (#2684 below right)

Civilian 1st variation #C418

RNMA 2nd variation #2684

Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene without legend, details below (extra cylinder #969):

Colt or Ormsby Type Naval Scene

Contrary to the before mentioned type of cylinder scene these cylinders were roll-engraved in the USA! Because US shooters did not like the Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene. Therefore, Centennial Arms Corporation, Chicago (CACC) had noted US gunmaker Thomas Haas produce a roll cylinder die with the Ormsby naval scene as used on Colt 1851 & 1861 Navies and the 1860 Armies. Revolvers were ordered by CACC from FAUL’s with their cylinders blank so the Colt/Ormsby scene could be added in the USA.

These pistols then became what we call today RNMAs 3rd variations. Their cylinders regularly bear the legend ENGAGED 16 MAY 1843 parallel to the rim of the cylinder. 2 basic types of such cylinder scenes are currently known:

# Type 1: Between the naval scene of the 1st sub-variation the marking embossed COLTS PATENT No plus serial number is embossed. It is assumed that this is the regular marking of the first pistols with this cylinder scene, assumed in the 1400 serial number range (#1423 left below). These are the extremely rare RNMA 3rd variation, 1st sub-variation.

#Type 2: On 3rd variation RNMAs with this cylinder scene but higher S/Ns, i. e. 2nd and 3rd sub-variation the marking was changed to CENTENNIAL and the serial number was moved to the breech end of the cylinder (right below #2999). Centaures with this type of cylinder engraving are called 2nd sub-variation (with cut in butt for shoulder stock) and/or 3rd sub-variation (without cut in butt for shoulder stock). These variations are very common in the USA. A few late production pistols with this cylinder scene are known without the CENTENNIAL mark.

RNMA 3rd variation, 1st sub-variation #1423

RNMA 3rd variation, 2nd sub-variation #2999

Colt/Ormsby type naval engagement scene details below (#4612):

Thoughts about Availability: pistols readily available say in the USA but only one or two specimen was discovered in Europe are considered “American” models and variations and vice versa…until we may know better at one point in the future that this pistol was actually regularly imported into other target markets as well.

MYTHBUSTER

Different models and variations in America and Europe? MYTH CONFIRMED!

#1 “American” models and variations

·   RNMAs 1st variation: 1st sub-variation

·   RNMAs 2nd variation

·   RNMAs 3rd variation: all sub-variations

·   Civilian Models: all variations

·   Cavalry Models: 1st, 2nd & 4th variation

·   Pocket Army: all variations

#2 “European” models and variations

·   RNMAs 4th variation

·   RNMAs 5th variation: all sub-subvariations

·   RNMAs 6th variation: all sub-variations

·   RNMAs 7th variation

·   Marshal Models: all variations

·   Factory engraved pistols in de Luxe, Super de Luxe, Presentation style

#3 “Universal” models and variations

·   RNMAs 1st variation: 2nd & 3rd sub-variation

·   Cavalry Models: 3rd variation

 

WDN/February 3, 2010

© 2007 Wolf D. Niederastroth

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