Engraved & Other Exotic Pistols

# Custom Engraved Centaures

# Factory Engraved Centaures

# De Luxe

# Super de Luxe

# Presentation

# FAUL Sampler?

# Cut-Away

 

Custom Engraved Centaures: “Many more Centaure percussion revolvers were engraved outside the Belgian factory by me and other engravers than there are known and confirmed factory engraved pistols” muses

#2538 engraved in Colt-style. Note rampant Centaure logo & cylinder with Centaure proprietary naval engagement scene…

…possibly done by US engraver. Note rare & 2nd MADE IN BELGIUM on barrel lug forward left of wedge screw.

long-time German master engraver J. Hensel of Rothenburger Waffeneck www.rothenburger-waffeneck.de. Adds Mitch Shore, son of Sigmund Shore who together with William B. Edwards started the Centaure hype:

#ENG No 2: Civilian in partitioned case, Ormsby type cylinder engraving, gold inlays, original powder flask stamped DIXON & SONS, Italian bullet mold

Back in 1960: “During the early 1960s my dad and Bill had a number of Centaures engraved by famous US restorer and noted gunsmith Tommy Haas for their personal collection…” see exquisitely engraved specimens

Note gold inlaid barrel marking & DIXON&SONS stamp on flask…

…and MADE IN BELGIUM on toe

with display cases of English fit Civilian (above: green interior) and Cavalry (below: red interior) from this collection.

#F946 Cavalry Model in English fit display case with accessories. Bullet mold is steel variety provided by FAUL, flask is Italian

 

Barrel marking “1960 NEW MODEL ARMY“    CENTENNIAL TRADE MARK CHICAGO U.S.A.

Unusual case hardened cylinder!

Below RNMA #7205 in the whithe is from Austria. Note intact barrel marking and centaure logo on forward left side of frame.

#7205 engraved by Austrian master J. Widmann from Ferlach in FAUL’s “de Luxe” style

left side of frame. Custom engraved Belgians typically kept barrel marking and/or centaur logo applied by

#8654 custom engraved, found at a German gun show 2007

Close up of the hammer area of #8654

FAUL. Proof marks and markings were usually an integrated element of the engraving. Factory engraved

#13096 custom engraved with gold inlays & carved grips, sold at Egun 2007

Centaures are only known with proof marks and MADE IN BELGIUM but without barrel marking and logo.

Factory Engraved Centaures: confides Lesley Field, formerly Mars Equipment, the company of Shore Galleries of Lakewood, IL, USA, who imported the Centaures from Belgium: “FAUL hired the same engravers for their factory engraved Centaures who also worked for well-known FN of Herstal…”

In German dealer catalogs of the period 1972 to 73 Fabriques d’Armes Unies de Liège and their dealers offered the Regular New Model Army with the plain rebated cylinder factory engraved in the de Luxe, Super de Luxe and Presentation style. The factory was prepared to have pistols engraved in the style requested by the individual customer. No factory engraved pistols have been discovered produced before 1972.

The de Luxe came “in the white” finish with Colt-style floral hand engraving. Pistols were selected quality but taken from regular production after proof testing, which implies that barrel markings and the logos were stamped on the regular production guns after proof testing as well. De Luxe-style (below) engraved guns could

Close-upf of #11851

Another view of #11851

be had in RNMA and Marshal configuration. Most factory engraved Centaures recorded in the survey are in de Luxe style.

The factory engraved Marshals had the rebated cylinder like their long barrelled brother, not the fluted one

 

of the regular Marshal models of 1st or 2nd variation. Currently only pictorial proof from ads exists (see right close-up) plus some oral reports of shooters who know a pard who used to have one…

S/Ns documented for the de Luxe engraved RNMAs are between 11818 and 13839. For details browse to below table.

Oiled grips were standard with or without inlaid centaure logo medallion.

 

De Luxe style engraved & consecutively numbered RNMAs #13140 (top) and 13139 (bottom) found in France…

…differences are in the tiny details

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In 1972 and 1973 a de Luxe engraved RNMA or Marshal with oiled grips and medallions would set you back DM 658,00 at your friendly gun dealer in Germany (see page 5 Stanglmeier ad).

During the period 2007 and 2009 less than a handful of these de Luxe engraved Centaures were offered over at Egun online auction house. They achieved prices between € 600,00 and 870,00!

 

 

 

Unusual de Luxe (left) factory engraved RNMA with medallions inlaid in one piece ivory grips.

Guess what your dealer charged for this one with ivory grips back in 1973?

The Super de Luxe (below) had a deep blue finish and silver or gold inlaid engraving. They were made at FAULs to order only with specially tuned and polished action. Your German gun dealer would ask DM 1698,00 for this specimen in 1973. No real life specimen has been reported yet. All we currently have is pictures in catalogs and from ads.

Super de Luxe

There is this story that FAUL had every 1000th NMA enhanced with months and months of work profusely engraved and gold inlaid in a quality even surpassing the Super de Luxe version. These very rare revolvers

Presentation Model #14000

dubbed Presentation Model are known with ivory grips only!. They could be purchased directly from the factory in Belgium but in Germany also from dealers like Stanglmeier in Munich. Price then was DM 2198,00 for such a gem. One such specimen is above #14000.

2 further views of Presentation #14000

As suggested somewhere else be prepared for surprises when you deal with Centaures…no matter if they are of the plain Jane or the engraved kind. In August 25, 2009 2 stylishly engraved Belgians were brought to my attention by a German shooter-collector. #12439 was undoubtedly a RNMA of the factory engraved de Luxe

2 views of Presentation Model #11842

variety whereas pistol #11842 (above) required further detailed inspection. She seemed to exhibit all the

characteristics of another Presentation Model. This includes the horse that seems to gallop when the cylinder is spun. But there were all indication that this is a factory engraved specimen in Presentation style…

Left side view of Presentation Model S/N 11842

Which indicates that above story of “every 1000th pistol being made into a Presentation Model” is just that…another nice story for the campfire that does not hold water, I am afraid!

Currently 3 Presentation style RNMAs are included in the survey: #11842, #12422 and #14000.

De Luxe factory engraved RNMAs in the survey are from France and Germany, the Presentation RNMAs from Germany only.

MYTHBUSTER

# Every 1000th Centaure was factory engraved as a Presentation Model? MYTH BUSTED!

FAUL Sampler?

FAUL Sampler? In German DWJ magazine from 1971 is a picture of what looks like a 4th variation Cavarly Model with rebated cylinder (!) engraved in de Luxe style. Fitting shoulder stock with similarly engraved yoke and butt plate matching the gun, see picture at left.

Where is it now, where did this beautiful stocked pistol find a new home?

Only pictured cut-away Centaure known

Cut-Away specimen of the 8” barrel, rebated/plain cylinder, 3-screw frame cut for stock in the regular blue/case colored finish configuration are documented. At this stage we do not know if they were made by FAUL’s.

 

WDN/March 11, 2010

© 2007 Wolf D. Niederastroth

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